Posts by rather be in hades

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Penn State pays for covering up Sandusky crimes, BIG TIME

by talesin in

this sends a clear message to other universities who may be harboring child molesters.. excerpt:.

the sanctions by the governing body of college sports, which capped eight months of turmoil on the central pennsylvania campus, stopped short of delivering the "death penalty" of shutting down the sport.

but the ncaa hit penn state with $60 million in fines, ordered it out of the postseason for four years, and will cap scholarships at 20 below the normal limit for four years.. other sanctions five years' probation, and the ncaa also said that any current or incoming football players are free to immediately transfer and compete at another school.. ncaa president mark emmert announced the staggering sanctions at a news conference in indianapolis.

rather be in hades

on the paterno front...there's a certain level where no matter what...wrong is wrong.

if he thought players being paid was not a big deal...fine. whatever.

like you said though, if that was his grandson or great grandson, no matter how manipulated he might have been, there's no way he'd be ok with his kin being raped. point blank. let's not sgar coat it.

i would have liked it if they removed every single one of those wins he held so dearly that he let some poor kids be hurt. maybe turn them into loses.

vacate the championship(s?)

just make sure his name is not forgotten in this manner. if sodom and gommorah can be a warning for angering jay hova...maybe the name paterno can be synonymous with not letting the need for wins over take the need to do right.

whatever his record is, it should be 0-whatever.

maybe that's why he donated so much to the school. because he knew they were gonna be royally f'ed when he left. the simple fact that he negotiated his retirement and all that before the shit hit the fan makes me think he had ALL of his faculties

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Trying to talk to my mom - really discouraged, need help.

by rather be in hades in

jw
friends

so, i'm new here and i've decided to finally tell my mom the truth about jws.. and sorry for the long post.

i'm at my wits end.. here's some background:.

i grew p in a congregation in california, i'm not a born in, though i was raised in it from 5 - about 20. arond 20 i pretty mch faded out, bt the emotional ups and downs were jst all too much.

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the genesis stff still seems too...easy to deflect for jehovah's witnesses. all fundamentalist christians really, bt especially them.

when i was in it, i'd have said miracles and faith and left it at that. now, the science part of me would be screaming it's total bullshit, but the faith part of me was too scared for everlasting nothingness to really listen until the therapy. i jst don't think i can focus on god's irrationality. i think i'd end up going in circles with her. if she can dismiss a fucking house of the princes who never came that's literally a 15 minute drive from her house...actually maybe more like 10 minutes...i just don't think i can wrestle that stuff with her.

anytime i point out how mch of an ass god is...she can point to ten that has paradise and all that.

if i point out god's a dick...she can say that the people shouldn't have been wicked and there's no concrete proof that it's bullshit. i mean, there is, but it's not proof to someone who discredits science when it inconveniences them. same as logic.

that's why i'm homing in on the 607/1914 thing. it's concrete. it's easy to explain, and fck it...there's two threads with like..40 pictures someone took of all these encyclopedias saying jerusalem was destroyed in 587, or that zedekiah was i dnno...dethroned or something in 587. contrast that with 607 from...only the witnesses. i thinkit's an easy deconstruction and not even my old witness ignorance couuld ignore straight up false prophecy like that.

what do jehovah's witnesses do? preach the good news

why? matt 28: 19-20

what is it? watchtower article tells me it's jesus becoming chief pimp in heaven in 1914 with the end drawing close and a paradise with hot chicks not far behind.

how do we know it's 1914? daniel 7 prophecy and 607 bce +2520 from the prophecy +1 because there's no year 0

what's 607 bce? day jersalem was destroyed

say what now? jersalem was destroyed in 587...so 1914 isn't biblical in the least bit. if you use 609 then you get 1912...nothing. if you use 587 you get 1934...nothing. soooo?

if i can get that far, and i'm sure i can. i can feel it. then i think i get free reign to question everything...or at least the governing body.

the pyramids thing might be a later revelation, unless she asks me where 1914 comes from. maybe i'll sneak it into the conversation that dan 7 wasn't how they originally calclated it.

my mom would cut you for what you said about women...she was in the army reserves and did rotc all through high school and anytime i'd start acting up, she'd remind me she was a crack shot with a rifle. she can be quite gangsta when she wants to be lol

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Trying to talk to my mom - really discouraged, need help.

by rather be in hades in

jw
friends

so, i'm new here and i've decided to finally tell my mom the truth about jws.. and sorry for the long post.

i'm at my wits end.. here's some background:.

i grew p in a congregation in california, i'm not a born in, though i was raised in it from 5 - about 20. arond 20 i pretty mch faded out, bt the emotional ups and downs were jst all too much.

rather be in hades

00dad - i think i can, and i feel dirty saying this, but i think i can manipulate my mom by sounding sincere about the TRUTH of it all. the people i was thinking of mentioning, they're real. i'm real. she doesn't know all the pain and my mom has a heart. she's a damn good mom and she's smart to boot, just misguided as all hell. i think that if the governing body can essentially lie through their teeth and say we're perfect but we're not perfect, then i can lie to my mom and say that if it's the truth i want to come back. i never want to go back, bt it sre as hell would be weird if it was the trth wouldn't it? lol.

what i'm saying is true...from a certain point of view. i bet the governing body is filled with star wars fans.

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Conti Trial Transcripts and Court Documents of Attorney Zalkin's cases of 5 victims WT settled out-of-court, San Diego, all available to download using MediaFire

by AndersonsInfo in

the conti trial transcripts have been uploaded using mediafire.. .

conti trial transcript: http://www.mediafire.com/?oj940x48xuuaa.

the public domain court documents for the 5 victims wt settled out-of-court case in may-june 2012, attorney irwin zalkin, san diego, calif., have been uploaded using mediafire:.

rather be in hades

also, did anyone notice what they objected on for the campos case?

they never objected to the facts of campos molesting kids

they didn't object to the facts that campos was molesting kids while in a position of power in the congregation, or that he was molesting a god damn 5 year old.

no....they objected to the points establishing control over the congregation. meeting attendance, the dress code, the time slips, the bible studies and inviting people to the hall. so they objected to the idea that they were clpable for campos in anyway. that his going ot in service was their fault. that kids going to kingdom halls around predators was their fault.

what a 'godly' organization!

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Conti Trial Transcripts and Court Documents of Attorney Zalkin's cases of 5 victims WT settled out-of-court, San Diego, all available to download using MediaFire

by AndersonsInfo in

the conti trial transcripts have been uploaded using mediafire.. .

conti trial transcript: http://www.mediafire.com/?oj940x48xuuaa.

the public domain court documents for the 5 victims wt settled out-of-court case in may-june 2012, attorney irwin zalkin, san diego, calif., have been uploaded using mediafire:.

rather be in hades

i think some of that stuff is true only on technicalities.

i used to do early morning service a lot. that was probably the bulk of my service when i was pioneering.

we didn't always have a meeting for service before hand. a quick prayer and off to throw down the watchtowers on nsuspecting landry mats all over san diego.

so what he said about the meeting for field service is kinda true. there are no 100% you must do this that and the third before service.

technically, you don't have to turn in time. you can jst call up your service overseer or whatever they call them now. you reported it, bt did you turn it in?

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assigned territories: like i said, i was all over san diego for early morning witnessing and spent a lot of time in the gaslamp early in the morning, but my territory was at least 15 miles away. they encouraged us to stay in our area, but pioneers don't go by those rles when time is on the line.

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dress code...if you've ever been late and still went in your work clothes...

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the bible doesn't explicitly state you have to condct bible studies with the literature, nor does it say you have to get them to the kingdom hall

it's all verbal judo.

as the great obi wan kenobi once said..."what i said was true...from a certain point of view"

problem is luke skywalker got pissed and went all jedi in the emperor's throne room.

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"Queen of Soul Food" Sylvia Woods dies.

by ohiocowboy in

the owner of sylvia's restaurant in harlem has died.

she was very famous for her restaurant.

the last time i was in new york, i had the treat of eating food from there through a recommendation of one of the locals.

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sylvia's sounded awesome back in the day.

i live close to it and i've had it once. never again.

no offense, bt my family knows soul food. i mean...we are mostly black. sylvia's had no soul.

if you're a soul food restarant in harlem and 9/10 times the only people eating there are white...it doesn't count as soul food.

amy ruth's however is so good you'll cry.

don't get me started on mexican food out here...

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Penn State pays for covering up Sandusky crimes, BIG TIME

by talesin in

this sends a clear message to other universities who may be harboring child molesters.. excerpt:.

the sanctions by the governing body of college sports, which capped eight months of turmoil on the central pennsylvania campus, stopped short of delivering the "death penalty" of shutting down the sport.

but the ncaa hit penn state with $60 million in fines, ordered it out of the postseason for four years, and will cap scholarships at 20 below the normal limit for four years.. other sanctions five years' probation, and the ncaa also said that any current or incoming football players are free to immediately transfer and compete at another school.. ncaa president mark emmert announced the staggering sanctions at a news conference in indianapolis.

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does this go far enough? they covered up CHILD MOLESTATION.

they give out the 'death penalty' (i dnon what that means for ncaa) for recruiting violations, but they don't give it out when the school is covering for one of the coaches RAPING KIDS IN THE SHOWERS???

sorry that doesn't sit well with me and frankly, paterno should be stripped of all wins

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end times article in watchtower library 2011 cd

by rather be in hades in

*** g95 6/22 p. 3 predictions of the worlds end ***.

anyone read this article?.

i love how it mentions that end times prophecies have been around forever and they've all failed.. goes on to mention william miller and 1844. mentions harold camping lol.

rather be in hades

all good points and thank you for the watchtower quotes

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Trying to talk to my mom - really discouraged, need help.

by rather be in hades in

jw
friends

so, i'm new here and i've decided to finally tell my mom the truth about jws.. and sorry for the long post.

i'm at my wits end.. here's some background:.

i grew p in a congregation in california, i'm not a born in, though i was raised in it from 5 - about 20. arond 20 i pretty mch faded out, bt the emotional ups and downs were jst all too much.

rather be in hades

lol thanks. seems like doctrine allows for the magical miracle clause in the jehovah's witness handbook

wold you consider 1914 and 607 bce in the same vein? i think with actual dates...i can logically work with that.

me: 'what's the good news of the kingdom?'

or me: 'what's the good news of the kingdom? i always nderstood it to be that jesus christ became king in 1914 and that signified the end of the wicked system of things and the begining of the thousand year reign. isn't that right?'

this article on the jw official site spells it out...thank you google. - http://www.watchtower.org/e/jt/article_04.htm

so whether if she says yes, i can continue, if she wants to squabble, i can point her to that link.

me: "so 1914 is a critical date, it's the thing that really seperates jehovah's witnesses from the rest. now i remember that 1914 was calclated from daniel 7. i don't remember how the 2520 years was calculated, bt if we look in the daniel book, we can see that the prophecy dictates we apply this to the date of jerusalem's destrction in 607 bce. that brings us to 1914 when you compensate for no year 0."

me: "but that's wrong. jersalem was destroyed in 587 bce. judah was destroyed in 609 bce. this is undisputable fact. every encyclopedia in the world says jerusalem was destroyed in 587 and the way they figured that out was from well kept historical tablets from that exact time period. the astorlogical markings for the dates proves it was not 607 bce and that it was without a dobt 587."

me: "so doesn't that make 1914 wrong? applying daniel ch. 7 to 587 puts us at 1934 and nothing significant happened then. wouldn't that mean christ didn't come back then? doesn't that nullify the good news? or at least alter it?"

i think this is something i can use because when i talked to my mom about it before...she had no answer and seemed confused. plus i have those awesome pics from that library trip someone made. a god send.

what do you think?

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Conti Trial Transcripts and Court Documents of Attorney Zalkin's cases of 5 victims WT settled out-of-court, San Diego, all available to download using MediaFire

by AndersonsInfo in

the conti trial transcripts have been uploaded using mediafire.. .

conti trial transcript: http://www.mediafire.com/?oj940x48xuuaa.

the public domain court documents for the 5 victims wt settled out-of-court case in may-june 2012, attorney irwin zalkin, san diego, calif., have been uploaded using mediafire:.

rather be in hades

bmping this thread for others who might want these documents

once again thank you for providing them.